conchshell
07-11 11:17 AM
With a successful flower campaign to USCIS, we must draw our conclusions from this success, and use the outcome to make the San Jose rally a success.
Please note that legal immigrants is a small handful set of people. Just a usual rally/demonstration will not make a dramatic impact. We have learned from the flower campaign that if we use innovative-peaceful ways of demonstrations, and manage Public Relations and Media well, we can be successful once again.
Please think and try to come up with some ideas. I have come up with these four ideas:
1. Project Martin Luther King Jr. as our hero in these rallies: Please understand that local Amrican people better understand about Martin Luther King Jr. andhis idealogy then M.K. Gandhi. My suggestion is that we should include large picture posters of Martin Luther King Jr. with a slogan "We legals too have a dream". We should also take Gandhi's posters. There is a possibility that all Black American organization may lend their support to us.
2. An act that attracts media attention: Please remember the scene from Gandhi movie when protesters led by Gandhi peacefully burned their resident permits in South Africa. To do something similar and show our symbolic protest against USCIS, we can publically burn a Photocopy of our H1B approvals (I-797). Please note that we are not asking people to burn the original I-797 approval but a photocopy of the document. This will send a message that taking the great pain in obtaining these legal documents are not helping us getting a better treatment by USCIS. This act will perfectly portrey the pain of legal immigrants and once again will attract media and newsprint to keeps us in headlines. This should be part of our demonstrations.
3. Waive American Flags: Please understand that recent media reports that only Indians are responsible for the flower campaign may hurt the campaign in the longer term. Please waive small American flags and show our solidarity with local Americans.
4. Distrubute a flower with a pamphlet to the people passing by at the demonstration site. A well worded paper will be required that can project our problems to the people.
Please share if you come up with innovative ideas to make these rallies a huge success.
Please note that legal immigrants is a small handful set of people. Just a usual rally/demonstration will not make a dramatic impact. We have learned from the flower campaign that if we use innovative-peaceful ways of demonstrations, and manage Public Relations and Media well, we can be successful once again.
Please think and try to come up with some ideas. I have come up with these four ideas:
1. Project Martin Luther King Jr. as our hero in these rallies: Please understand that local Amrican people better understand about Martin Luther King Jr. andhis idealogy then M.K. Gandhi. My suggestion is that we should include large picture posters of Martin Luther King Jr. with a slogan "We legals too have a dream". We should also take Gandhi's posters. There is a possibility that all Black American organization may lend their support to us.
2. An act that attracts media attention: Please remember the scene from Gandhi movie when protesters led by Gandhi peacefully burned their resident permits in South Africa. To do something similar and show our symbolic protest against USCIS, we can publically burn a Photocopy of our H1B approvals (I-797). Please note that we are not asking people to burn the original I-797 approval but a photocopy of the document. This will send a message that taking the great pain in obtaining these legal documents are not helping us getting a better treatment by USCIS. This act will perfectly portrey the pain of legal immigrants and once again will attract media and newsprint to keeps us in headlines. This should be part of our demonstrations.
3. Waive American Flags: Please understand that recent media reports that only Indians are responsible for the flower campaign may hurt the campaign in the longer term. Please waive small American flags and show our solidarity with local Americans.
4. Distrubute a flower with a pamphlet to the people passing by at the demonstration site. A well worded paper will be required that can project our problems to the people.
Please share if you come up with innovative ideas to make these rallies a huge success.
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gc28262
07-20 10:29 PM
If America is so unfair, who/what is compelling you to stay, heard there is an apartment available in Nandita's bulding in Bombay.
I have my reasons to stay here which you will never understand.
I have my reasons to stay here which you will never understand.
Legal
07-28 10:18 AM
It is indeed sad that you continue to pontificate from a perch of indifference and ignorance. We all know that the entire EB immigration system is not a zero sum game (just ask Ron Hira and his ilk). Sad thing is, when it comes to EB3 I's, EB 2's such as you suddenly transform into a Ron Hira lite ... going about throwing broad hints about how the system is setup the way it is ... to serve those 'higher in the pecking order'.
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
Look, the EB system is what it is. Instead of trying to bait others into silence by suddenly finding 'fairness in this system', only because this part of the puzzle narrowly goes to serve / protect your gains ... try to come together to fix the underlying weakness in the system.
For the record, I am not bitter about a 7+ year 'wait'. On the contrary, I have grown professionally thanks to the opportunity to focus my energies towards building a Billion dollar corporation. That said, I would LOVE to see the paperwork of EB2 Java 'gurus' and L1 converts stand up to true scrutiny ... and that would open a whole new can of worms. Game?
I know only of Java coffee:). I promise you Ron Hira wouldn't be interested in my application.
It looks like EB2-EB3 having overlapping qualifications is a major source of frustration for you. I have similar issues with EB1-EB2 overlaping qualifications.
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
Look, the EB system is what it is. Instead of trying to bait others into silence by suddenly finding 'fairness in this system', only because this part of the puzzle narrowly goes to serve / protect your gains ... try to come together to fix the underlying weakness in the system.
For the record, I am not bitter about a 7+ year 'wait'. On the contrary, I have grown professionally thanks to the opportunity to focus my energies towards building a Billion dollar corporation. That said, I would LOVE to see the paperwork of EB2 Java 'gurus' and L1 converts stand up to true scrutiny ... and that would open a whole new can of worms. Game?
I know only of Java coffee:). I promise you Ron Hira wouldn't be interested in my application.
It looks like EB2-EB3 having overlapping qualifications is a major source of frustration for you. I have similar issues with EB1-EB2 overlaping qualifications.
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08-18 02:30 PM
Who so ever is willing to support SunnySurya read his earlier posts.
All I can get from his posts is MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC.
We don't have much options. Let us jointly send letters to Ombudsman and USICS director and hope something will come out of it.
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All I can get from his posts is MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC, MY GC.
We don't have much options. Let us jointly send letters to Ombudsman and USICS director and hope something will come out of it.
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Proud to be an IVian
Supported all the campaigns so far
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alisa
12-11 07:43 PM
If 6000 of us could achieve so much in an year, imagine what 100k will do. That way we will be a credible enough force to be heard and respected. It still beats me how we have only 6000 odd members despite the dire situation that the majority of EB applicants find themselves in since 2001.
For the life of me, I couldn't figure this out either.
I also don't understand why most of EB applicants are so oblivious to the EB-based immigration situation.
I am from ROW, and I could only shake my head in disbelief when one of my Indian friends asked me innocently if the 'situation' was 'really that bad'?
If there really are 600K EB applicants, and all we can get is 6K members, then perhaps we deserve the crappy situation we find ourselves in today.
For the life of me, I couldn't figure this out either.
I also don't understand why most of EB applicants are so oblivious to the EB-based immigration situation.
I am from ROW, and I could only shake my head in disbelief when one of my Indian friends asked me innocently if the 'situation' was 'really that bad'?
If there really are 600K EB applicants, and all we can get is 6K members, then perhaps we deserve the crappy situation we find ourselves in today.
desi3933
07-09 11:02 PM
Chandu,
1. "W2 Self-employed" is an oxymoron. Self-employed option is possible through 1099. You sure can be self-employed (i.e., not on a W2) with AC21 provision, as the Yates memo clearly says.
Sankap -
Please allow me to explain this in detail. Please feel free to verify this information with attorney of your choice.
1. W2 Self Employed simply means that one has controlling equity in the employer company. For example - I am employed by corp that is, in part, owned by me since I hold a % of shares. I get paid on W2, just like any other employee in the corp.
2. Any memo (including Yates memo) supplements the existing federal regulations. They do not replace them. In any case, memo does not have force of law. In case of contradictory info, memo must "bow" to federal regulations and court rulings.
3. I-140 is for permannet and full time job only. See Page 5 of
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-140instr.pdf
4. Also, read this. It says 'Permanent Employment'
OFLC Frequently Asked Questions and Answers (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/faqsanswers.cfm#effdate1)
Question: What is the effective date of the new Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States, or PERM, regulation?
Answer: The PERM regulation is effective March 28, 2005, and applies to labor certification applications for the permanent employment of aliens filed on or after that date.
5. AC-21 job must be of same type as I-140/labor job, hence must be permanent and full time.
6. Permanent Job does not mean "forever", It simply means that duration of employment is not known. A job with 6 year contract is a temporary job (since duration is known), hence all H-1B jobs are temporary in nature and called guest workers. A permanent can be terminated at any time, at will, or as agreed notice by both parties.
7. One is not required to notify AC-21 job, but should e ready to respond to EVL RFE that can come any time.
8. Most of the full time exempt jobs in this country are permanent in nature.
___________________
Not a legal advice.
1. "W2 Self-employed" is an oxymoron. Self-employed option is possible through 1099. You sure can be self-employed (i.e., not on a W2) with AC21 provision, as the Yates memo clearly says.
Sankap -
Please allow me to explain this in detail. Please feel free to verify this information with attorney of your choice.
1. W2 Self Employed simply means that one has controlling equity in the employer company. For example - I am employed by corp that is, in part, owned by me since I hold a % of shares. I get paid on W2, just like any other employee in the corp.
2. Any memo (including Yates memo) supplements the existing federal regulations. They do not replace them. In any case, memo does not have force of law. In case of contradictory info, memo must "bow" to federal regulations and court rulings.
3. I-140 is for permannet and full time job only. See Page 5 of
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-140instr.pdf
4. Also, read this. It says 'Permanent Employment'
OFLC Frequently Asked Questions and Answers (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/faqsanswers.cfm#effdate1)
Question: What is the effective date of the new Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States, or PERM, regulation?
Answer: The PERM regulation is effective March 28, 2005, and applies to labor certification applications for the permanent employment of aliens filed on or after that date.
5. AC-21 job must be of same type as I-140/labor job, hence must be permanent and full time.
6. Permanent Job does not mean "forever", It simply means that duration of employment is not known. A job with 6 year contract is a temporary job (since duration is known), hence all H-1B jobs are temporary in nature and called guest workers. A permanent can be terminated at any time, at will, or as agreed notice by both parties.
7. One is not required to notify AC-21 job, but should e ready to respond to EVL RFE that can come any time.
8. Most of the full time exempt jobs in this country are permanent in nature.
___________________
Not a legal advice.
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guyfromsg
07-11 07:58 PM
I posted this message in other thread. I think this is the right place.
I uploaded in Youtube and put some description about the protest. If you feel it's not good I'm open for better suggestions. The still image is selected randomly I changed it, it may take up to 6 hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MigvhFq8zhY
I uploaded in Youtube and put some description about the protest. If you feel it's not good I'm open for better suggestions. The still image is selected randomly I changed it, it may take up to 6 hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MigvhFq8zhY
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roseball
11-17 07:58 PM
Please contact members of congress by clicking on the action alert below.
It will only take less than a minute for you. We are requesting adding amendments in the DREAM Act coming up. This campaign will help the DC advocacy work we are doing on this bill.
ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- DREAM Act: Help the Legal Immigrants (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=19787501)
Please spread the word everywhere for more participation
Please post on this thread once you have sent the email. Keep this thread up for the next few days.
Done.
It will only take less than a minute for you. We are requesting adding amendments in the DREAM Act coming up. This campaign will help the DC advocacy work we are doing on this bill.
ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- DREAM Act: Help the Legal Immigrants (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/issues/alert/?alertid=19787501)
Please spread the word everywhere for more participation
Please post on this thread once you have sent the email. Keep this thread up for the next few days.
Done.
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02-08 09:17 AM
Thank you KiranKashi, rsamudrala, sundaarpn, tonyhk12
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ca_immigrant
02-07 05:54 PM
I think culture vs quality of life is a different thing.
I am not saying that one place is better than the other...
There are many things for which I love living in the US...long list...
there are many things for which I love living in India...I think the list might not be as long as the US one....
2 of the main things I miss in the US.
1. Parents , Siblings and extended family....I do not know how much time anyone will have for me if I were to go back -:)
2. Culuture...mainly for the kids...here once the kids are 10 or 11 I think you cannot tell them anything much...they have thier own mind and will not listen to you....and might end up making wrong decisions...again not saying that this is 100% safe in India...but agian in India I think the kids listen to you till they are a little older....this helps as they might be a little more mature by then and hopefully will make more wise decisions...
Again, I am not saying life is easier or better in one place compared to the other...
If I were to go back to India (which is what we plan to do in 2 years from now) then it will be becuase of the 2 main reasons above...I really wish there was a work around for the 2 above and I would then stay back -:)
Both are great countries with plus and minus....
Peace !!!
All the best to all my friends here (the ones who stay and the ones who go back ) !!
I am not saying that one place is better than the other...
There are many things for which I love living in the US...long list...
there are many things for which I love living in India...I think the list might not be as long as the US one....
2 of the main things I miss in the US.
1. Parents , Siblings and extended family....I do not know how much time anyone will have for me if I were to go back -:)
2. Culuture...mainly for the kids...here once the kids are 10 or 11 I think you cannot tell them anything much...they have thier own mind and will not listen to you....and might end up making wrong decisions...again not saying that this is 100% safe in India...but agian in India I think the kids listen to you till they are a little older....this helps as they might be a little more mature by then and hopefully will make more wise decisions...
Again, I am not saying life is easier or better in one place compared to the other...
If I were to go back to India (which is what we plan to do in 2 years from now) then it will be becuase of the 2 main reasons above...I really wish there was a work around for the 2 above and I would then stay back -:)
Both are great countries with plus and minus....
Peace !!!
All the best to all my friends here (the ones who stay and the ones who go back ) !!
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abq_gc
08-23 11:58 AM
Hi,
I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...
Hi Sracharla,
Congrats on yur EAD.. Did u have a LUD on yur I-140 ???
Thanks,
I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...
Hi Sracharla,
Congrats on yur EAD.. Did u have a LUD on yur I-140 ???
Thanks,
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neelu
12-12 12:49 AM
Good question.
Also, I just learnt (through this forum) about 'hold'. Senator Sessions had put a 'hold' (a non-written tradition needing consent to raise in the senate) on the Cornyn bill.
Is that only for the lameduck session? Or is it true in general? Can senators put a 'hold' on a matter in any senate session? If that is true, then Senator Sessions can never even let this matter come up in senate in 2007 (and after.)
No I think it was only for the Lame Duck session. If it were to be for all sessions, no law would ever be able to pass, because in a democracy, it is an almost impossible feat to obtain unanimous vote!
Also, I just learnt (through this forum) about 'hold'. Senator Sessions had put a 'hold' (a non-written tradition needing consent to raise in the senate) on the Cornyn bill.
Is that only for the lameduck session? Or is it true in general? Can senators put a 'hold' on a matter in any senate session? If that is true, then Senator Sessions can never even let this matter come up in senate in 2007 (and after.)
No I think it was only for the Lame Duck session. If it were to be for all sessions, no law would ever be able to pass, because in a democracy, it is an almost impossible feat to obtain unanimous vote!
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gujju
02-09 02:05 PM
You all do amazing work and provide great information.I just did my first contribution of $100 and have become a recurring contributor for the same amount.If needed I will increase my contribution for March and April, as I will not be able to attend the event due to Family.
I tried to convince 4 EB3 friends with a priority date between mid 2002 and late 2003 , and all of them have lost hope for GC and they are just very pessimist about the process .
There are some who are concerned about not getting green cards , but give the excuse of being busy.I am trying to convince them to contribute and attend.
Thanks:-
I tried to convince 4 EB3 friends with a priority date between mid 2002 and late 2003 , and all of them have lost hope for GC and they are just very pessimist about the process .
There are some who are concerned about not getting green cards , but give the excuse of being busy.I am trying to convince them to contribute and attend.
Thanks:-
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mmanurker
02-15 02:27 PM
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sury
08-18 04:01 PM
EAD approval Notice Sent
Priority Date - Feb 2007
EAD Renewal Mailed - July 23, 2008
Approval date: 18-Aug-2008
Priority Date - Feb 2007
EAD Renewal Mailed - July 23, 2008
Approval date: 18-Aug-2008
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pyaradesi
07-19 10:09 PM
Sanhari,
If GCs were sold in stores I would buy you and your family a bunch of them.
You are in the EB3 category, do you ever wonder why somebody who is more educated than you or me, makes more money? Can we say, hey you I was born in 1890 I should make more money, it does not fly, EB3 is not a reflection on your skills but more the job you hold.
The question you should ask is why have EB1, 2, 3, etc?
Why do you not include the family based categories, isn't family first, why not the EB spill over to to FB first then whatever trickles down comes to EB, is not this fair? I am sure there are a lot in the FB queue who have waited for longer than you. Now dont tell you you are better than FB because you are highly skilled, pay taxes, etc.
You signed up for this knowing what was in store.
You think writing a letter or starting up a thread is going to help?
I just wonder, is IV some kind of therapy? something like weightwatchers,
maybe we should call ourselves GCWatchers, for frustrated GC folks from India.
Tell me this, are your bosses fools to sponsor you in EB3, do they not know it will take years? No they are not, ask yourself why?
India is shining, not a bad proposition at all.
If GCs were sold in stores I would buy you and your family a bunch of them.
You are in the EB3 category, do you ever wonder why somebody who is more educated than you or me, makes more money? Can we say, hey you I was born in 1890 I should make more money, it does not fly, EB3 is not a reflection on your skills but more the job you hold.
The question you should ask is why have EB1, 2, 3, etc?
Why do you not include the family based categories, isn't family first, why not the EB spill over to to FB first then whatever trickles down comes to EB, is not this fair? I am sure there are a lot in the FB queue who have waited for longer than you. Now dont tell you you are better than FB because you are highly skilled, pay taxes, etc.
You signed up for this knowing what was in store.
You think writing a letter or starting up a thread is going to help?
I just wonder, is IV some kind of therapy? something like weightwatchers,
maybe we should call ourselves GCWatchers, for frustrated GC folks from India.
Tell me this, are your bosses fools to sponsor you in EB3, do they not know it will take years? No they are not, ask yourself why?
India is shining, not a bad proposition at all.
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hope_4_best
06-20 09:17 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13446357/
WASHINGTON - In a defeat for President Bush, Republican congressional leaders said Tuesday that broad immigration legislation is all but doomed for the year, a victim of election-year concerns in the House and conservatives' implacable opposition to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants.
"Our number one priority is to secure the border, and right now I haven't heard a lot of pressure to have a path to citizenship," said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., announcing plans for an unusual series of hearings to begin in August on Senate-passed immigration legislation.
"I think it is easy to say the first priority of the House is to secure the borders," added Rep. Roy Blunt, the GOP whip.
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WASHINGTON - In a defeat for President Bush, Republican congressional leaders said Tuesday that broad immigration legislation is all but doomed for the year, a victim of election-year concerns in the House and conservatives' implacable opposition to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants.
"Our number one priority is to secure the border, and right now I haven't heard a lot of pressure to have a path to citizenship," said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., announcing plans for an unusual series of hearings to begin in August on Senate-passed immigration legislation.
"I think it is easy to say the first priority of the House is to secure the borders," added Rep. Roy Blunt, the GOP whip.
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12-10 12:14 PM
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How can I have a foot note in my posts? Thanks.
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How can I have a foot note in my posts? Thanks.
My Dear Macaca... Do the following to add a signature to ur posts... Login go to user profile... on the left hand side under Settings & options.. Edit ur signature... Type ur footnote and this will appear in all ur posts. Let me know if this is not what u r looking for.
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