pitha
07-08 11:08 AM
no it will not be voilation of the law at all. consider this scenario thats been going on for the last 30+ years. For example July 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was jan 2003 and the August 2006 visa bulletin for EB2 india was unavailable. EB2 india visa numbers might have already been used up when the August 2006 visa bulletin was released but they still accepted the AOS petitions filed until the end of July 2006, they did not issue an updated visa bulletin or a revised visa bulletin saying eb2 india numbers are used up and they will not accept eb2 india aos applications, they continued accpeting AOS applications until the end of july 2006.
If you have the patience you can go through the visa bulletin archieves and find many such examples. The point is for the last 30+ years USCIS\DOS accepted applications according to the visa bulletin even when visa numbers were used up, they could have just followed the same precedent that they themselves set for the last 30+ years and accepted the applications this time as well without issuing a revised visa bulletin. I am no legal expert but that is how i see it.
It gets interesting. Doesn't it? Even if the court agrees that this is a fiasco and would like to compensate the beneficiaries by allowing us to file for 485, it would be in direct violation of the law that " there must be a number available on the day of filing ".We don't have any numbers. Do we? My point is, will a judicial system go out of the box and allow us to file when there are no visa numbers available? The only way is get numbers and make every one file and the only way for that is to undo what the USCIS has done in the last 2 weeks of June. Just my thoughts. I am ready to take anything positive out of this because I have least hopes pegged on the law suit.
If you have the patience you can go through the visa bulletin archieves and find many such examples. The point is for the last 30+ years USCIS\DOS accepted applications according to the visa bulletin even when visa numbers were used up, they could have just followed the same precedent that they themselves set for the last 30+ years and accepted the applications this time as well without issuing a revised visa bulletin. I am no legal expert but that is how i see it.
It gets interesting. Doesn't it? Even if the court agrees that this is a fiasco and would like to compensate the beneficiaries by allowing us to file for 485, it would be in direct violation of the law that " there must be a number available on the day of filing ".We don't have any numbers. Do we? My point is, will a judicial system go out of the box and allow us to file when there are no visa numbers available? The only way is get numbers and make every one file and the only way for that is to undo what the USCIS has done in the last 2 weeks of June. Just my thoughts. I am ready to take anything positive out of this because I have least hopes pegged on the law suit.
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fightnow
07-11 02:24 PM
Can anybody point me to the other thread about quotes from American president? I could not find it.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks a lot.
reddymjm
05-01 08:10 PM
EB2 went to U and then because of EB1 they are available. so it could be all EB3 numbers left. In that case we can see considerable movement in EB3. If EB3 ROW becomes current or close to current next visa bulliten there might be some movement for India and china in coming months or atleast IN FY 2009.
If you don't agree. Speak out
If you don't agree. Speak out
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ganguteli
03-06 05:18 PM
For me country cap was an important issue, so I started a focus group. If you think filing I-1485 is more important than start a focus group, you may find 100s who will support you...you can start a yahoo group
http://groups.yahoo.com/
While it is temptig to start an agenda item and group, I do not think time is right. You may end up too muchg attention in the bad economy and anti-immigrant atmostphere. It is better not to go on offensive and instead work on saving your job.
http://groups.yahoo.com/
While it is temptig to start an agenda item and group, I do not think time is right. You may end up too muchg attention in the bad economy and anti-immigrant atmostphere. It is better not to go on offensive and instead work on saving your job.
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GCNaseeb
09-12 09:24 AM
Please create link to main page So that everyone can access easily.
Its been noticed that the updates are not seen from the main page right from it was created. Better yet to create a new thread under members only thread and try merging these.
Its been noticed that the updates are not seen from the main page right from it was created. Better yet to create a new thread under members only thread and try merging these.
satishku_2000
06-09 03:21 PM
I dont know any one of you guys personally but I am happy for you folks who are able to file AOS after a long wait.. Good luck for you ....Please continue to support IV ...:):D :cool:
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h1techSlave
07-21 08:14 AM
I am quoting the below lines from another post..
"With 11.25 K EB3 members we would have still collected quarter million bucks."
I think the above statement is correct. There are 1000s of EB3 I folks in IV and they could have very well contributed a quarter or even a million bucks. My question is, what will happen after that?
"With 11.25 K EB3 members we would have still collected quarter million bucks."
I think the above statement is correct. There are 1000s of EB3 I folks in IV and they could have very well contributed a quarter or even a million bucks. My question is, what will happen after that?
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delhiguy
07-07 01:53 PM
Yes the core problem is visa numbers. We have been fooled to believe for few days we all are safe and GC retrogression is over without even realizing someone was taking us for nice roller coaster ride.
Thanks for supporting my view.
We need media attentoion and legislature help to get the visa number increased,
Thanks for supporting my view.
We need media attentoion and legislature help to get the visa number increased,
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 09:10 PM
"The market has a way of regulating itself".
That is probably the most absurd thing said in this forum.
Purgan, please do some basic research and you will see you are plain wrong. There is no way you will see your dream coming true. Govenment intervention when it comes to regulate the influx of foreign labor is everywhere. It is controlled. You just allow less or more people coming in and that is fair. If you allow the gates of a third world country to open for good and flood this with programmers to a point where you would be making $10/hour, nobody sane wants to get downgraded to that level. Foreigners with a funny accent like us would be competing for jobs. Probably employers would love and exploited people in the third world countries would love that, but I have to tell you things don't work that way.
Similar polls were conducted by Zogby, CNN, etc. I outlined other evidences there. Only individuals with an open mind can read between the lines though.
when american's from such third rate schools are not getting jobs, do you seriously think foreigners with their funny accents and relatively poor English communication skills (I'm Indian and can tell you its still a second language to me) can get jobs??
The market has a way of regulating itself. As someone mentioned above, there were a a lot of H1 space available from 2001-03. But it never got filled because there were simply not enough jobs. Lets not try to set up govenment intervention here....let the free market decide....that is what made this country great.
btw, NumbersuSA, FAIR and other restrictionist organizations have zero credibility because they oppose even legal immigration.
That poll....don't impress me much...
That is probably the most absurd thing said in this forum.
Purgan, please do some basic research and you will see you are plain wrong. There is no way you will see your dream coming true. Govenment intervention when it comes to regulate the influx of foreign labor is everywhere. It is controlled. You just allow less or more people coming in and that is fair. If you allow the gates of a third world country to open for good and flood this with programmers to a point where you would be making $10/hour, nobody sane wants to get downgraded to that level. Foreigners with a funny accent like us would be competing for jobs. Probably employers would love and exploited people in the third world countries would love that, but I have to tell you things don't work that way.
Similar polls were conducted by Zogby, CNN, etc. I outlined other evidences there. Only individuals with an open mind can read between the lines though.
when american's from such third rate schools are not getting jobs, do you seriously think foreigners with their funny accents and relatively poor English communication skills (I'm Indian and can tell you its still a second language to me) can get jobs??
The market has a way of regulating itself. As someone mentioned above, there were a a lot of H1 space available from 2001-03. But it never got filled because there were simply not enough jobs. Lets not try to set up govenment intervention here....let the free market decide....that is what made this country great.
btw, NumbersuSA, FAIR and other restrictionist organizations have zero credibility because they oppose even legal immigration.
That poll....don't impress me much...
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GumI485
07-03 01:44 PM
I would sent some cactus if there were options to do that.:D
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vkjanam
02-18 12:23 PM
Hi Sukhwinderd,
This is good info. At present I am trying to influence some of my friends to contribute to the advocacy days and this info comes in very handy for such dicussion with them.
regards
Vkjanam
here is a report which says there are more than 300,000 GC visa numbers were unused.
go to page 35 or search pdf for recapture to see chart.
from the report
This dialogue is critical considering that when USCIS
and DOS fail to accurately estimate cut-off dates, visas go
unused or are shifted to other family or employment-based
categories. Congress passed legislation permitting the
recapture of some unused visa numbers from previous
years.119 Figure 19 presents data on visa numbers �lost�
between 1992 and 2009 for both employment and family
preference categories.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_2010_annual_report_to_congress.pdf
recapturing visas is the easiest way to clear backlog. it has happened before and can happen again, if all of us try.
This is good info. At present I am trying to influence some of my friends to contribute to the advocacy days and this info comes in very handy for such dicussion with them.
regards
Vkjanam
here is a report which says there are more than 300,000 GC visa numbers were unused.
go to page 35 or search pdf for recapture to see chart.
from the report
This dialogue is critical considering that when USCIS
and DOS fail to accurately estimate cut-off dates, visas go
unused or are shifted to other family or employment-based
categories. Congress passed legislation permitting the
recapture of some unused visa numbers from previous
years.119 Figure 19 presents data on visa numbers �lost�
between 1992 and 2009 for both employment and family
preference categories.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_2010_annual_report_to_congress.pdf
recapturing visas is the easiest way to clear backlog. it has happened before and can happen again, if all of us try.
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sunny1000
07-09 12:14 PM
Here is something to note:
Accepting I485 along with a pending I-140 is part of the rule making by USCIS and so they may choose to change the rule back to "not accept I485 until an I140 petition is approved" just like that good ol' days before 2002, if they want.
But, I don't think they would do that as they need all the money that is being generated by EAD/AP.:rolleyes:
Accepting I485 along with a pending I-140 is part of the rule making by USCIS and so they may choose to change the rule back to "not accept I485 until an I140 petition is approved" just like that good ol' days before 2002, if they want.
But, I don't think they would do that as they need all the money that is being generated by EAD/AP.:rolleyes:
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desi3933
06-28 11:07 AM
desi - You seem to have in depth knowledge in this. All your posts put together gives the complete picture.
Thanks so much, for your kind words.
If not in IT field, I would have been in Immigration Law field.
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Thanks so much, for your kind words.
If not in IT field, I would have been in Immigration Law field.
.
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GreenCard4US
07-21 06:06 PM
We EB3 guys have to work together. In a couple of year you will not find a single EB2 guy here as they will have their GC's. I hope some senior member can give some guidance on how we should proceed to take up our cause.
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GCard_Dream
12-11 12:38 PM
Well.. may be that's the dose of reality core team needs to give to its members and that may wake up non-contributing, non-helping, and just log in to check status type of members. Just come out and say that we are too small of a group with very limited resources and influence on the capitol hill and we can't get any of our goals including non-controversial ones passed unless we have at least XXX number of members and X dollars in contribution. At least this will set the facts straight and members won't have a false expectation on some of these non-controversial measures.
Once that is clear, may be folks who are staying back or hesitating in terms of either contributing or supporting IV in membership increase will realize that it's either time to act or preserve the status quo.
All I am saying is that may be we should make the reality on the ground and rules of engagement clear to all members/non-members so that they can all set only a reasonable amount of expectation from IV under the circumstances unless something drastically changes like the membership or the contribution.
So far, we have piggy-backed on CIR and SKIL both of which were to a large extent driven by corporate interest. If you take these realities into consideration, provisions like 485 etc are not low hanging fruits any more, because we no longer have a stool to stand on. Given the infamous intertia of the lawmakers, introducing our own independent provisions will take a lot more than a membership base of around 6-7K, a contributing base of around 2k and a free-riding/blissfully ignorant base of 900k+.
Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.
Once that is clear, may be folks who are staying back or hesitating in terms of either contributing or supporting IV in membership increase will realize that it's either time to act or preserve the status quo.
All I am saying is that may be we should make the reality on the ground and rules of engagement clear to all members/non-members so that they can all set only a reasonable amount of expectation from IV under the circumstances unless something drastically changes like the membership or the contribution.
So far, we have piggy-backed on CIR and SKIL both of which were to a large extent driven by corporate interest. If you take these realities into consideration, provisions like 485 etc are not low hanging fruits any more, because we no longer have a stool to stand on. Given the infamous intertia of the lawmakers, introducing our own independent provisions will take a lot more than a membership base of around 6-7K, a contributing base of around 2k and a free-riding/blissfully ignorant base of 900k+.
Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.
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gsc999
07-06 07:37 PM
We would all like to part of a rally or protest but why give us only one days notice? Surely most people will not have read this post by tomorrow. We should organize this properly by sending out the message to the community well in advance and getting the required permits (I mean if you want this to be in any way successful that is).
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This idea seems to have originated in a Chinese website that fightnow quoted in an earlier post. Lets coordinate this event for 14th July. Please join the Northern California IV group for more focussed effort on this issue.
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This idea seems to have originated in a Chinese website that fightnow quoted in an earlier post. Lets coordinate this event for 14th July. Please join the Northern California IV group for more focussed effort on this issue.
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rtarar
07-02 08:37 AM
Sent on Jun 30 to reach on 2'nd July.
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Sakthisagar
08-09 10:59 AM
Why are you not taking EB1 into account where the diff is 9 - 10 years. I came to US on L1 in 2001 Then applied for EB3 in 2004 which was deneied in 2006. Then started in EB2 in 2006. So if you consider, I have been here since 2001 not that I just come in 2006. Like the same way you too move up in your career and then apply for EB2.
Read this once more...
That is the TRUTH. But TRUTH sometimes is undigestable and it hurts a lot, and especially people who is having an agenda it hurts a lot! :-)
Read this once more...
That is the TRUTH. But TRUTH sometimes is undigestable and it hurts a lot, and especially people who is having an agenda it hurts a lot! :-)
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go_guy123
05-11 08:47 PM
So many come to US on visa free travel, work 6 months undocumented from european countries, yet they are the first to get the GCs while Indians abuse B1, they abuse H1. How come only Indians abuse everything no one else abuses anything?
Indians dont abuse one thing...marriage based green card. people from many countries abuse that massively and get green card. I have stayed in us for long and have seen that.
Indians dont abuse one thing...marriage based green card. people from many countries abuse that massively and get green card. I have stayed in us for long and have seen that.
gcspace
10-16 09:50 AM
Any one from July12 - 16th got their checks/receipts?
gc4me
07-21 12:44 PM
Recieved by USCIS on July 11, LUD JUL 15th.
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